The Professional mourner : rudaali
Many years ago when we visited Kerala every Summer vacations, I used to notice this scrawny dark woman with a hunched back sweeping in the yard or doing small chores. She would never cross a boundary to enter our house even when other workers did so. She would talk to herself most of the time and sometimes became ridicule of others for jabbering. There were times when she purposely asked me few things to listen to my broken Malayalam and laughed showing her few brown teeth. The character amused me. Her name was Pangi.
I always wondered why she wouldn’t cross a boundary beyond the yard of my great-grandmother’s (My mom’s grandmother) naalukettu when other workers did so. My great-grandmother then told me that this lady belonged to the lowest caste and in that too classified under professional mourners. Even though caste system was long abolished and with advent of communism in the state, people were free to go anywhere they pleased but people who belonged to old school of thought still believed in it and practiced and that also included older people of lower caste. For Pangi, she could never imagine there would be a day when she would be allowed to enter temples, nalukketu and houses of upper castes. So she followed the rules even when no one asked her to. She would still wear an old cotton white saree without a blouse (she covered that part of the body with her saree) ; another taboo prevalent in olden times when lower caste women were not allowed to wear blouse or cover upper part of the body. Such ubiquitous casteism prompted Swami Vivekananda to nickname Kerala as the mad house of India.
Younger generation of women from Pangi’s family wore blouse and casteism wasn’t rampant anymore but she would still follow most of those taboos. At this old age she didn’t know any better and perhaps she was senile to understand the changes in the society.
It was the first time I heard about someone who would cry at others’ funeral. My great-grandmother told me that in olden times the splendor of a person was known from the number of people who wailed and cried at the funeral. Women of aristocratic family were not allowed to wail or thump their chest. Since members of the family were mourning in silence, a group of professional mourners performed that duty. They wailed for hours and thumped their chest. They belonged to the sub sect of lowest caste called pulayar. With time, this practice stopped.
Further research on this custom, led me to many links where it is mentioned that professional mourning was part of almost all the cultures and civilizations and it is still practiced in some places in Brazil and Greece. In Brazil, professional mourning women are called carpideiras. They wear black clothes and are called to wail at the funeral in return of food or money. An important part of Greek tradition is epicedium where mournful songs are sung loudly by professional mourners and now since professional mourning is extinct, the tradition is continued by family of the deceased. Wiki says from about 1600 to 1920, The professional mourner, generally a woman, would shriek and wail (often while clawing her face and tearing at her clothing), to encourage others to weep. These people are mentioned in ancient Greek plays, and were employed throughout Europe, but the practice largely died out in the nineteenth century. They continue to exist in Africa and the Middle East. The 2003 award-winning Philippine comedy Crying Ladies revolves around the lives of three women who are part-time professional mourners for the Chinese-Filipino community in Manila’s Chinatown. According to the film, the Chinese use professional mourners to help expedite the entry of a deceased loved one’s soul into heaven by giving the impression that he or she was a good and loving person, well-loved by many. [Refer : Encyclopedia of death and dying]
Back home, this custom was prevalent in certain areas of Rajasthan where women of lower caste were hired as professional mourners upon the death of upper-caste males. These women were referred to as a ‘rudaali‘ (roo-daa-lee), literally translated as ‘female weeper’. Their job was to publicly express grief of family members who are not permitted to display emotion due to social status. Same custom was depicted in a Hindi movie based on the short story by Mahasweta Devi. Since this was a custom prevalent in almost all civilizations in ancient times, there are chances that it still exists in some cultures.
Pangi was perhaps last of professional mourners that existed in Kerala for no one even knew much about it by then or cared as the custom was extinct. I remember years later when my uncle (Mom’s older sister’s husband) died, Pangi perhaps in her late 80s then stood at a distance and wailed. Many people found it offensive and asked her to leave immediately.
Poor Pangi.. she was only doing what she was taught as a child. She didn’t have any place to rest or anyone to call her own. She worked for measly wages and slept on the sidewalks. After few more years, Pangi was hit by a car and found dead near some bushes. There was no one to shed even a single drop of tear for someone who cried for others.









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I knew of this custom after I saw rudali and I was stunned… according to mom it doesnt exist in Punjab but u never know
Its surprising and shocking how the rich used to use the poor for everything they needed…
things havent changed much now to, just the ways have
sad
I feel really sad for Pangi
me: Monix, I am sure many people don’t know that it existed in Kerala too because the custom isn’t followed anymore. From what I read, it existed in almost all cultures so may be in Punjab too. We would never know till we meet someone like Pangi.
It still exists…
infact even today in our community we have to write in paper when we give ad’s that we are not wanting such an act…
i dont know what it is called in gujarati… but i am aware of such ladies who come cry loudly beating their chest… and all…
never tried to learn too much about it though… all sounds not so bright to me…
me: Oh dear! so it is still prevalent.
Never knew that such a custom existed in kerala. Thanks for writing it from your own experience and enlightening us. Sad to hear about pangi. I guess she will be receiving more respect and empathy through your words and from all of us
me: Many of my cousins don’t know either. I learned about it because I was fascinated by this character and then my great-grandmother told me about Pangi.
Really sad to read about Pangi. Never knew we had this in Kerala. This demonstrates how a mind becomes so conditioned or trained to do some things. It is sad the way roles were defined in olden times by whomever had the power/wealth/upper caste(!) and it gets carried along. Even when people are educated, they follow some of these irrational customs. Eye opening post Solilo.
me: Laks, Kerala had some of the worst caste based distinction.That is one reason other caste people were forced to make their own temples because for long they weren’t allowed inside ours.
so sad after reading about Pangi…i didn’t know about the customs, this is something new..thanks for sharing
me:
The mind is so weird. It gets used to things though wrong and after a while they seem routine. Didn’t know that such customs existed in so many parts of the world.
your last line is heart-wrenching
me: Isn’t it? Even when she wasn’t asked to, she still followed things which were taught to her as a child.
I don’t really know what to say………this post left me so sad
. I’ve heard stories of mourners but always as part of a folklore. This is the first time I’m hearing it from someone who has known a mourner and it feels more real.
me: A, I would never have believed it or even looked for it. It is surprising that this custom existed everywhere in the world. Shows us the distinction between classes even then.
Hei ‘A’… why no new post from you? waiting….
hi mahmud…will post something soon…nothing in my mind at the moment
Didnt know of such a caste and a custom. we had all kinds of people at our ancestral home, thanks to my communist grand dad; everyone was treated equally. But , what were our forefathers thinking when they created such castes and traditions ? Swami Vivekananda was right !!! A bunch of crazy idiots !
me: Vimmu, Communism did bring good changes in Kerala and I think many of our ancestors changed because of that but there still were/are people who follow old traditions and also people like Pangi who still think that they are outcasts.
Nicely written, especially those last few lines.
God! Soli i did not know this was a custom in kerala! i have seen rudai, and i percieved it to be in north, as never has this even come up as talk or been mentioned when talking of kerala!
me: Crafty, I would never have believed myself.
poor pangi… and so many like her
that last line of urs… geee..
well, u wrote this for pangi, Soli. and tho we do not know her, our hearts will ache for her. she will have us who shed a tear for her… coz u told us about her.
Soli ((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))
me: Hugs Crafty bachcha.
Solilo, I wrote a comment and I guess it went into moderation. I really dont know why and how. and trust me, it was a very decent comment. Probably, thats why ! hmm…
me: Vimmu, your decent comments on my blog makes WP go crazy. Ha..ha..
errr…now you can delete this !
hmmm dil dukha. well written as always.
don’t know of this happening in punjab but yes, mourning/wailing/chest thumping is a custom that women do … rather used to do … they’d cover their faces and make the most sad wailing sounds that the people who actually lost their family can’t help but cry.
happened in our village when my mom’s father died. they’d come in droves – women and men – while men would sit with men, women would sit on the floor around my grandmother and wail and thump chests and what not …. and when they were leaving (i was young then 12/13), they would be laughing/gossiping like nothing happened whilst my grandmother would be inside on bed … devastated.
it was quite a drama.
me: Roopie, as I thought it did exist in other states too. Such strange customs people made.
the process written above happened for 2-3 days or even more. all the surrounding villages women would come …. do the drama of wailing …. eat food … and leave as if all’s well.
me: That is what my great-grandmother told me. The more people cried for more number of days meant that the dead person belonged to higher rank.
i can’t forget this one woman who came in to see my grandmother after 2-3 days of mourning were over. she asked me how i was (i was playing with friends near the front gate), chatted with me, laughed, joked, smiled … went in … soon after, I heard her wails … and moments later, she came out all smiling, giggling again … not a drop of tear on her face. obviously she had her face covered with dupatta when wailing. i bid her goodbye and went inside to see my grandmother all distraught. she had been doing well all day before that.
it was terrible for her, really, but i guess you gotta abide by the ‘tradition’. :/
thankfully, it didn’t happen for my father’s father who just recently passed away. my dad didn’t let that happen plus things are diff in canada, thank goodness.
Truly eh ! few customs and traditions are beyond comprehension even today…
Hope Pangi’s soul rests in peace..
me: Amen
Good post Solilo…
As others above, I never knew about Rudali concept in Kerala…
But the “pulaya” community has been associated with death.
I have heard stories from my grand-mom of how days before telephones the news of death was carried by the pulayas to the relatives houses .. all far and wide – they run and let them know and come back…
that’s the reason they were treated as such outcasts even after the so called abolishing of untouchability…they were messengers of death. my grand-mom still lives in a typical mallu movie type village and even now pulayas are not allowed inside the compound
me: Anamika, I have seen in small towns, people of other religion and lower caste are still not allowed to enter tharavadu/mana. Sad! isn’t it?
what is worse is when we have the 15th day sadya (adiyantra sadya)
all the left-overs ( not the unserved leftovers) – the waste in everybodys plate is collected and given to them …as if thats a great deal … as thanks for being messenger …
On my last visit to my grand-moms place I had heard someone complain how the pulaya didn’t come to take the leftover food and the person was saying like ” oh avarokkonnum ippol ithonnum venda “…
me: Gosh! how mean can people be? Pangi too used to eat from garbage. I mean she wasn’t too clear in the head so sometimes she would pick up the left overs from other banana leaves.
Back home, even though there is so much to change for better, I feel when you compare the life of such people – things have changed a lot in recent years .. hope it will change a lot in the coming years too
me: Things have changed a lot for them. They deserve it.
I got to know about this custom after I saw ‘Rudaali’, but I always thought it was a Rajasthani thing…Very well written…It’s sad the way some people were treated and thankfully things have changed although they have to change more…
me: Things have changed but all the reservation that govt. has is mainly utilized by economically well people. The poor in the lower caste are still very poor and probably being treated in a lowly manner.
Thanks for sharing, your well written words touch the heart.
me:
How ironic that Pangi’s end had no one crying for her loss! So sad abt how life can be so cruel!
me:Irony of life.
Beautifully written… May Pangi Rest in Peace. May she get in the other world what she could not in this one….
Are you serious about “Not allowed to wear blouse”????? That is grotesque!! What wud they do then? Move around naked???????
me: There was a time in Kerala when women and men belonging to lower caste weren’t allowed to cover upper part of the body. Of course this was a ridiculous custom made by upper caste men for their own pleasure. Lower caste people often worked in the paddy field and when upper caste men went to check on them, they were to drop anything that covers their upper part of the body (yes! gross). If anyone from lower caste was found covered then they had to pay high tax.
I knew professional mourners were there in Rajasthan, but in Kerala too? M shocked!!!
me: Probably many parts of India because it existed in all cultures.
This is indeed sad!! Being forced to pay high tax because their upper body is covered!!?? This was obv meant for women since for men, it doesnt matter!!
One of those strange customs, and I read it when I am already feeling sad and low Solilo..
me: What happened, Taru? Why low? Will my hugs make you feel better? {{{{{{Hugs}}}}}}}
Thank god (and I hope) its not prevalent now..
I need to read something lighter to cheer up. v badly..
Beautifully Written Soli… hugs!
Yea, this custom existed and in some places still does!
And yes you made that difference by writing about her… she will be mourned.
me:
Ahh… sad!
I mainly knew of this custom through the movie, Rudaali. Why did we make such customs? I think our ancestors gave too much value to public impressions, it must have begun as a matter of pride to have a larger number of people grieving for the dead, and since there weren’t enough volunteers, they started paying or feeding them…
me: You know, IHM. In olden times, it wasn’t very classy of people to speak louder or express themselves in a loud fashion. So while aristocratic people mourned silently, these rudaalis thumped their chest and wailed for days. Strange thing is that it existed everywhere in the world. Rudaalis everywhere wore Black clothes and were called for this in exchange of food.
The custom is now dead but in the west, people still wear Black to the funeral and don’t wail.
What a lonely life and death for Pangi.
I think its more to make the ppl in shock to mourn dont you think?
Like that poem.. about a young woman who loses her husband.. as a soldier.. and everyone says.. she has to cry or she will die…??
May be this was started as a way to make ppl cry.. but ofcourse it got distorted later
me: You are right in a way, Meena. It is important for people to cry to ease shock that can lead to death. But then wailing wasn’t considered noble. So mourners actually helped the people in the house to ease their pain.
Never knew that rudali was present in kerala,honestly i never knew about casteism in kerala which is having highest literacy rate in india.Nice to hear that things are changed now probably due to the more number of educated people in kerala.
me: Casteism was very bad in Kerala. The state is literate now so of course such customs are dead. Communism did bring a good change, I believe.
Lower caste people are not allowed to wear blouse,how can anyone be so cruel not to allow them to cover themselves?
me: Read my reply to Nova.
Casteism may not be in our generation but people of my mom’s age still want to know what is the caste of a person,they determine the caste of person by his standard of living,his colour etc……
me: Exactly! casteism is still alive and that is why people still get killed when they love out of caste or religion.
First time heard of rudali in the hindi movie starring dimple,felt so sick after seeing that movie.
There was no one to shed even a single drop of tear for someone who cried for others.—- may her soul rest in peace.
Your last few lines left me numb – the irony of it all.
Poor Pangi – may she rest in peace and lets hope wherever she is now, people welcome her warmly.
me: Irony of life indeed.
I knew of the professional mourners because of Dimple Kapadia’s Rudaali. She did a fantastic job and it also has one of the most haunting music I have heard “Dil Hoom Hoom Kare” … Beautiful posts and I am so glad casteism is gone.
me: I think Mahasweta Devi’s story and Lajmi’s movie adaptation is read/seen by many.
Casteism still exists, Ash. Not so rampant though.
That was a very sad story of pangi .. truly sorry for her.
But my knowledge about this custom was strictly based on the movie … but I learnt more from your post. The comment from Anamika made me sad ..
me: Yes! I am shocked that people have the audacity to expect others to eat leftovers and that too in today’s time.
Hi, I didn’t know this existed in Kerala. As many fellow bloggers have rightly said, I think Pangi now gets her rightful share of respect and sorrow from all of us who have read your post. Thanks for doing it. Rekha.
me: Rekha, I don’t think many would know till you meet someone like Pangi. It doesn’t exist anymore but then there are some people who are reminders of cruel old era.
Hmm…heard about the custom recently from my grand dad…weird..
me: I know.
There is also a group among Brahmins who are considered lower because they perform death rites.
Thoughtful and touching post, Solilo-such a strange custom! What a life for these women.:(
I don’t think there is this type of custom here in Maharashtra, but then, we don’t know everything that goes on in the rural areas.
me: Manju, may be it was there and then it became extinct.
I saw the film Rudaali- very powerful.
God.that was touching. Living in Kerala ever since i was born and i never heard of such a thing before never…I did know about certain taboos but nothing about Professional mourners that existed in Kerala and maybe still do..
me: Other than Pangi I have not met anyone who followed it. May be with people of Pangi’s generation, it is gone.
I read the wiki stub, and it says the practice was held in high esteem in some cultures ! Maybe because it was a source of livelihood for the mourners. But then it was the lowest caste that got this job, so how it could be held in esteem is beyond me.
Yet another sad practice!
me: It was done by a group of people so may be they were happy to receive money for it.
Another informative post Solilo….I thought this practice was only prevalent in Rajasthan.
Cheers,
QI
me: We all probably think that way because of Mahasweta Devi’s Rudaali.
hmmmmm, first time i have heard of anything like this…………………..
poor woman……………………… shesh!!!!!!!!!!
me:
On the death bed, be don’t belong to any caste. Still in India, we so much stick to the caste thing. Even the educated class.
me: In the end all of us just need 6 feet place and still we have so many differences.
One day one of my friend said that he won’t marry out of his caste. I asked, why?. He said his parents won’t allow him to do so. I again asked Why?. He said I don’t know. Then I asked him to ask his parents the same thing. Why?
me: Sad. Isn’t it? Caste system still exists.
Pangi’s case is very sad. And a common one in India. It reminds me of the lines: “Kabhi kisi ko mukammal jahan nahin milta, kahi jamee to kahi aasmaa nahin milta….”
Your narration is too good.
A moving post.. even I didnt know they existed… but even now some dont allow the people from this section into their houses… they still serve them food outside etc.
me: You are right, Asha. I have seen it in small towns. Actually people of other religion and lower caste too know their boundaries are stay behind it.
Caste system in Kerala has thinned out.. but it is yet to go away from the hearts of many.. maybe it would need one more generation…nd it is funny to note that it needed the Communists to bring about the changes…. Religion couldn’t do much since even the Christians are not better when it comes to such practices
me: Communists did one good thing in caste fanatic Kerala.
These kinda pangi amma,neeli amma,nani amma are still there in most of the ‘Tharavads’.
me: Anish, ‘amma’ is often associated with upper caste Hindu women. Other women are just Pangi, Neeli, Nani.
But this generation of ‘lower casts’ are previleged one.They are eating the fruit of there grandparents and great grand parents suffrerings and sacrifises.Many of them are in good positions now(i know lot of these so called ‘upper cast’ people are working in there house),thanks for reservation(though i’m strongly aganist 30 + reservation)Now a days when i go home, i can see that they all playing cricket, football with rich fellows(in fact no one minds which family others are coming from or finantial status)
,i grown up seeing that a lot
.Instead of broken malayalam (ente malyalam shudha malayalam annu
),they ask and comment about my hair style ,bulgan and all ..lol
(and also coments like monanghu sheenichu poyello
)
when she purposely asked me few things t i can clearly pictrise that
me: Reservation sure has brought a difference but I believe it is still not benefiting most. Many backward class are still poor. Look at the plight of adivaasis. That is why religious conversion happens in rural areas.
@ professional mourning—OMG really,can’t beive that.i know that now a days event management people are taking care of mourning part and all in funerals.
@ adivasis —-true and after all they are not any ones vote banks.Unfortunately neither politicians,social welfare organisations nor common people bothered about them
Hmm…that’s interesting and sad. Didn’t know that this custom existed (does it still continue in India??). Well written!
me: It still exists in many parts of the world.
Rich men and, by extension, those from upper castes, have always had others to perform various unpleasant or inferior tasks for them.
If I recall from the little that I remember of the movie in which Dimple Kapadia gave a stunning performance and Bhupen Hazarika great music, rudaalis were also objects of sexual exploitation.
I wonder whether this rule of no blouses was imposed in Kerala by lecherous upper caste men.
me: Of course it was. Check my reply to Nova.
Even though I have not witnessed a professional rudali, it just makes me feel so sad at the plight of these women – they cry at every funeral they are called to, but nobody cries for them !!!!
me:
This is a very sensitive subject, Solilo…the last line, ‘There was no one to shed even a single drop of tear for someone who cried for others.’ I feel so sad. Hope she (Pangi) is comfortable over there.
I never knew that this custom was followed in Kerala. Kerala has got the most literate people in India. But older generations had no other entertainment than following these ridiculous customs, I think. No outsiders entered my grandmother’s house, I remember. One brass tumbler was kept on the veranda and my g.mother used to pour coffee or buttermilk in that cup for them to drink. She expired when I was 10. I have never heard about this practice in our place.
me: Sandhya, my maternal grandfather was a staunch communist so he didn’t follow caste system. He didn’t allow any puja in the house. Strong atheist!
Even then there always was an invisible line. Even the maids who were allowed in the kitchen were from upper caste.
My paternal grandmother didn’t like anyone belonging to other religion or lower caste enter certain areas of the house. She changed over the years though. She was nice to them and gave them money and food but didn’t like them enter tharavadu..
I have seen ‘Rudaali’. Dimple Kapadia acted very well, in that movie. The songs were also, very soulful and sad and good. Very serious and well-made movie, that was. We see so many customs of Rajasthan and Punjab and Bengal too, in movies and TV serials, we have become so familiar with their customs.
Thank god, these types of silly customs are not followed now. Very powerful writing, this one is, Solilo.
me: Read Roop’s comment. Apparently in some parts of Punjab it still exists.
Also, while researching for it, I found that in some parts of Brazil the custom is still followed.
Rudali ofcourse is known word courtesy the hindi movie starring Dimple Kapadia but seriously…never knew something like happened in Kerala of all the places.
I could see Pangi clearly thru ur words
An enlightening post, thank U!!!!!
me:
beautiful and moving post Solilo.. you really made our hearts ache for Pangi who mourned the loss of numerous lives and ironically had no one to mourn for her when she passed away..heart wrenching.thank god such customs don’t prevail any longer.
me: Some people you meet in your life leave this lasting impression. Pangi is one of them. My Kerala visits in school years meant observing a lot of customs and people and learn about them.
Sigh…. what timing for this post… SIGH…
me: Now when I am reading this comment, you are in euphoria.
strange are ways of life.. in the morning I read about me not being picked… then Tara;s sad post… and this post… and I kinda felt… sigh… its a bad day… !
And suddenly in the evening…
guess the day before I was so sure I would have made it to the next round… I guess I wouldnt have valued it so much if not for the twists… !!!!!
me: That’s what I recently wrote on someone’s space. We value happiness when it comes after sadness.
*sigh*
its amazing how creative ppl r … when it comes to torture.. they leave no stone unturned!
Your last sentence was so powerful! How sad! I was surprised to learn that this was practiced in many parts of the world. When I first heard about Rudaali, I always thought that this can happen only in India! I did not know that other cultures gave into such over-emotions ! Nice post.
me: Bins, you would be surprised at the weird customs followed in the west. West wasn’t much developed back then.
Even now wailing after death isn’t considered noble in many parts of western world.
Awww tht’s sad… never knew abt this custom (professional mourners)
me:
What research Sol. very informative. And on the other hand, there are cultures, for instance, Mexico – which actually celebrate death. They have a party and that is their way of celebrating death as much as life.
me: Rakesh, You know what? When I first visited Chennai, there was this procession where people danced and sang. So I asked my friend if there was some local festival and she replied that people belonging to lower caste in Tamil Nadu, dance and celebrate death. It was a funeral and the dead man was sitting on a chair all decorated with garlands. Now that really shocked me because I had never heard something like that.
In India however, it is surprising that we mourn so much considering that Hindus believe that death is just a passage to another life and that the soul lives on.
me: I know. We contradict ourselves. But I guess pain needs to be eased.
I’ll surely include budget in my will for a grand feast and party of all my dear relatives and friends.
me: A custom in the west where people book their own funeral place.
Oh Soli I remember watching that death dance In Tamilnadu….I couldn’t sleep for days and used to sit and cry in the middle of the night as the image of the dead man sitting on a chair haunted me
me: I was surprised too the first time because I had never heard or seen anything like that. But you know..I guess they are doing what is actually written in our religious books and that is to ‘celebrate afterlife’.
What a way to live and what a way to die .
Behind all those strange and inexplicable customs of dress, living style and a shunned existence, was a lady. who sincerely did what she was asked to do, possibly by virtue of her birth, caste, and a quiet acceptance of her situation in life, which included being the butt of jokes.
Whatever her duties, she performed them to the best of her abilities. And died, unsung. We have no value. But somewhere, where work is counted as worship, she is probably at the top….
me: You worded it really well, Suranga.
“But somewhere, where work is counted as worship, she is probably at the top….”
My heart goes out to Poor Pangi
caught in a caste system that’s cranky
Hopefully we will get over this psyche
and get off our shoulders this monkey.
I remember when I was a kid and went to our Tharavadu on holidays, there was a similar person. Her name was Kurumba.She must have been about 50.She was free to come into the house but there was an invisible line drawn. I loved her very much maybe because she was the only one shorter than me.
me: Shorter than you.
OMG! I never knew this practice existed in Kerala too!
Feel so sad for that woman Pangi
Thatz life no
No one to shed one drop of tear for her
me: Irony of life, Swaram.
Soli,
That was such a fantastic post! Informative, ofcourse, but so touching too. This wicked caste system…it disgusts me. Loved your post. A very nice tribute to Pangi.
-Pallavi
me:
Nicely written post, we could visualise the scene… I am perplexed at the upper cast customs (some of them) – they add to the adage that “Even if you are a fool, you ought to be the fool-in-charge” or something like that…
Destination Infinity
me: Such ridiculous customs!
To the best of my knowledge ,this custom does exist in Punjab too.
me: Mr. Chowla, Roop’s comment confirms it.
Hi solilo,
) and second it sometime talks of things which have been long dead in my memory.
Have been following your blogs for months. One for it is extremly close to my sensibilites (by this iam not claiming to be as bright as you
There is something very pleasent and familiar about your posts which brings many memories to me of my childhood growing up with my parents and talking with my dad on such issues and topics.
(*avoiding to be mushy*)
Would you mind if i add you to my blog list?
K
me: Welcome Kusha. Thanks for such wonderful words. It really means a lot.
Of course you can blogroll me. I am honored. Do you have a blog?
Thanks. Yes i ramble a little.
me: Let me add you too.
Just added you.
Adding to the caste system horror. My poor mother was left perplexed when my Bai refused to wash the glass my mom poured water in for the jamadar. Just to prove her point my mom washed it on her own for couple of months may be six or so and finally one day she said to my mom ‘rehva do madam hoon karoo choo paar koine kehta nahi’ (Let it be madam ill do it but don’t mention this to anyone). AS i argued with my mom as to why shouldn’t she, she said one step at a time beta…these things are so rooted in society that they can only be dealt slowly and calmly.
me: Yes! the conditioning from both sides. That needs to be changed. Your mother said it. “one step at a time.”
And as for Pangi..thats a nice little homage you paid to her. My heart goes for her and many others who die a lone death. The thought itself sends shivers down my spine! Great post!
Sad Irony of life!!!! We are a country of strange traditions and we are regressive enough to continue with them till now!!!
me: That’s the important line..”regressive enough to continue with them.”
This is one of your most moving posts……you narrated it so well weaving the facts in to the story of one individual. How we can be so unjust to other humans is mind-blowing.
Poor Pangi, died with no one to mourn for her – but at least one young girl (you) remembered her and gave her some dignity in doing that ………
C
me: Me and many others who commented here, C.
Hi So…
This custom was quite common in some parts of Gujarat apart from Rajasthan.
me: Dhiren mentioned the same about Gujarat.
I think this with changing social mores, this practice is also dying a natural death. Yet, at one time this was a widely adopted ritual.
Whatever be the merits or compulsions for this practice to be adopted, it was the society of those days that gave it legitimacy and no one saw it as exploitation or gross or regressive.
me: You are right.
Change and evolution are a constant. Society today rejects what was once a “must-have” ritual. This rejection is based on today’s perspective and needs of society.
The fact that our society has kept changing, though slowly and almost unnoticed, has to be welcomed. It is a sign of a society that is living and constantly shedding dead wood. Don’t we see change in so many aspects of our life today?
One may pounce on me and say…What about the other ills? I feel much of the ills are sufficiently highlighted as the soft underbelly and the process of shedding them has begun, albeit in a small way. It is only a matter of time before this too happens.
me: You are right here too. Society is changing and good change is always welcome but some things are so imbibed in our system that it stays with us even after all the changes.
assuming that my blog’s rss feed did not work update as usual , why dont you drop by my blog and wish me
me: I haven’t checked my reader or blog hopped yet.
Now that you mentioned I checked yours and since you are here let me wish you a very Happy Birthday! Hope you had a good one.
Thanks Sols. Thought the feed as always must not have updated. So instead of letting you complain later, I’d dropped by myself!
me: That was thoughtful of you. Thanks.
the last sentence made me go all
yes i’ve heard abt this kind of women whose job is to cry at funerals. i think the custom has totally died out now. but i never the same had been practised in other cultures too in different ways. very enlightening post… well written. the ending was touching
me: Custom still exists may be because people find it as a way of making money.
I never knew about such a thing. I just knew as much shown in Rudaali movie. thanks for the post.
me: Many mentioned the movie. I think Kalpana Lajmi/Dimple Kapadia were true to the story.
Very well written.
I thought rudalis existed only on North India.Of course ,to be frank,my knowledge is based solely on that one movie,with soulful music.
You think it is still prevalant in some parts of the country?
me: If it was not for Pangi, I would also have thought that professional mourning was some old custom that was followed in Rajasthan.
Apparently it is still prevalent in some places (see comments).
Goodness Solilo, what a narration, what reality!!!
Its very moving, emotional….sad. I knew to some extent this existed before; but your post gave way to actual reality.
It was very emotional, the way you have concluded the post….
me:
I m here after a long time Solilo…very informative post but sad too… i feel really very sorry for Pangi…
me: Nids, how are you? Must be hectic with the new one.
I m doing good. Thanks for asking. Yeah, it definitely is tough right now, but i guess once i go back to work, everything will fall in place, including Blog time
,but right now i m completely freaking out with the thought of going back to work and leaving Anay behind
me: Nids, it is a tough decision but of course you will make one that suits your family. Hugs.
And that’s irony for you. Poor Pangi. No one to shed a tear for someone who did for others! It does seem a weird custom. But I find even the custom of crying (by those immediate family members) ‘for the benefit’ of visitors also pretty weird. The gossipers among those gathered for funerals whisper among themselves criticising the lack of loud weeping or wailing.
A well informed write up.
me: I know. In the olden times even the custom of sending someone (again from lower caste) to all the houses to inform death also is ridiculous. Today of course there are other ways. Still most people arrive and gossip. Some pick on the dress and jewelery worn.
hellooooo…I’m here..just wanted to mark my presence..how r you?
now scrolling up to read the post
me: Welcome back, Deeps. Rest on your blog.
‘rest on your blog’ kehkar,where are u???
a heartwrenching post,Sols. My heart goes out to people like Pangi. “No one to shed a tear for someone who did for others!”I totally agree with Shail..it is an irony.
I never knew,Sols that this custom was prevalent even in kerala.The first time I heard about professional mourners was when I saw Rudaali.Thats when Ma told me about them.
Its pathetic.I feel even more when I realise its not just confined to India,it is practiced in other parts of the world too.
me: It is strange how united we are when it comes to ridiculous customs. Good that it is almost extinct now.
Thank you so much for this post,Sols…if I had not read it I wouldnt have known how far and wide this ridiculous custom runs!
It is so sad to hear of things like this. Kerala had a very strict caste system earlier. My dad tells us how bad it was, even when they were growing up. Which is probably one of the reasons why communism was so successful there – equality was a lot in demand, I guess plus education.
me: I have heard stories from my great-grandmother and my grandmother. I once read this book on Kerala’s caste system (forgot name) which was quite informative and shocking at the same time.
We have so many such customs, and as you have pointed out, even in other parts of the world, it is shocking. Especially, if you see, the condition of women, across the world was quite bad. There are so many customs, which were downright cruel. Thank god, things are changing and hopefully so will the lives of Pangi’s offspring and relatives. Yes, it will take a lot longer for some people to let go of these customs – especially when they have been mired in these rituals for so long. I guess, we can just be thankful that things are changing, albeit slowly.
me: “I guess, we can just be thankful that things are changing, albeit slowly.” Rightly said, Smi.
A very stirring post indeed! I am from the mallu-land and I have heard many such stories of professional mourners being treated without respect. A recent story is that of a 12 year old daughter of one such professional mourner who finds herself subject to ridicule as she belongs to the “lower debased caste” . Some of our customs are quite weird and more-often-than-not quite unsettling. Things seem to be changing these days but the change is required in remote villages as much as it does in cities.
me: Yes! the change needs to be brought in villages and opportunities given to economically backward people.
This is my first comment at your blog; I love the way you write. Your blog is one among my daily reads and I am very glad to have bookmarked it.
me: Welcome to my space, Espirit.
Very informative post
And you described it so well
Somehow I feel so sad while reading or doing any research on this kind of topic. but you did quiet a good research and while I was reading it the thought came to my mind that your grandmother actually did explained you quiet well ….
me: Actually great-grandmother (my mom’s grandmother). Yes! she did.
I feel reall sad for Pangi..she lived a life always in sad mode …shedding tears for others means you feel for their pain a little at least….
May her soul rest in peace…
me: Amen.
I didn’t know this practise was prevalent in Kerala too, thought it was more in Rajasthan. Thanks for sharing Pangi’s woes with us. i felt sad for her. I liked reading the entire blog. good job!
me: Welcome here, Shilpa.
heart-breaking post and story. I remember weeping like there was no tomorrow when I saw Rudaali: and then there were two occassions where I saw professional mourners.
Beautifully researched, Solilo – this is a story that needs to be told.
me: I haven’t seen Rudaali in its entirety. I must now.
Wow Solilio… This was almost like a film – informative, dramatic, tragic… it’s fot everything in it to make a good film – I mean it!
me: Reminds me of Oscar Wilde quote, “Life imitates art far more than art imitates Life.”
I was never aware of this professional mourning custom that existed. It sounds so wierd.
The last line was so very touching Solilio… It summed up the entire post.. I loved this post – totally!
After seeing the movie Rudali, I did ask my mom whether this really was a profession at some time, and she told me it was and probably still prevelant in parts of India.
I feel that this practise was a result of 2 main evils in the society: Caste discrimation and how women were treated in those days.
Whenever there was a death in the “high class” family, women were not allowed to sit in public and show their mourning. But “rudali” were women from low caste, so it wa okay for them to do so.
It is sad to hear about Pangi.
Very touching post Sol !!
I hope the ppl of new gen can learn a few things from these practises which were a bad stain on the society.
me: I hope we can do away with casteism but it has a long way to go.
came to know of this custom only from the movie… I was so shocked when mum told me that such a tradition and such people did really exist. u knw I couldn’t see that movie and I still cant…beautiful touching post solio and very well researched.
me: I am yet to watch that movie in its entirety.
this post left me feeling really sad. Your posts provide so much food for thought, solilo. You write really well.
me: Thank you, Dipika.
I’ve been fascinated by this profession. Interesting post.
me: I was too when I first heard of it. It is amazing that some people have so much story behind them. You observe and just get amazed. Pangi was one such person.
Its a beautifully written post and very accurate. Lower castes were not allowed to wear blouses, later when they started wearing blouses. Some upper castes like Nairs actually rioted to tear off clothes, specifically blouses, off these women.
me: Yes! also when many of these people converted to Christianity, the women started wearing blouse that irked upper caste men.
And I found the last line most moving, no one shed a tear at the death of one who cried at the death of others.
Very beautifully written post. I am touched by pangi’s story. I should say you have added emotion to your writing. Keep it up and am going to visit your blog regularly now
me: Welcome here, Rupa.
Hearing this for the first time.. Depressing piece of info..I haven’t watched the movie either…
me:
Sad. Makes me very sad to hear all of this.
me:
Well written, Solio. I admire the research you do for your posts.
Btw, an award for you on my blog
me: Coming over to your space right now.
I don’t know what to say.. bcoz of all the song tradition happening in our blogs I am humming Dil hoom hoom kare and somehow tears are stinging my eyes.
I feel so much for them bcoz I know it still exists even in the so called cultured areas like Delhi. While I was working in Delhi I had once gone to the Tughlakabad area in Delhi. While I was talking to the people I got to know that there were many who earned their money as professional mourners even now. the style might have changed…they no longer have to be in shredded clothes without blouses, they multi task as mourners and as maids and construction workers. What made me shudder in shock was when I met a 13 year old daughter of one of the mourners who was aspiring to become one herself. I asked the girl how can you cry and bring tears to your eyes so easily for a person you never knew? I still remember her answer “Memsaab hamari zindagi ki kahani kya kaafi nahi hai aansu laane ke liye”?
me: Oh! people still prepare to do it? Conditioned society.
I have seen the real rudaali’s of Rajasthan too and heard about the kerala mourners from my grandfather. Just feeling too sad after reading your post coz sometimes it just hurts so much
. One of the reason I never ever dared to see that Dimple movie Rudaali even though I love the songs was that I knew I will need a dozen Bombay dyeing towels to wipe my nose and eyes. The other reason of course is that I found Dimple’s make up ridiculous …no rudaali would wear mascara and lipstick…hmmpf!! *sakshi feeling a little better after bitching abt dimple*
Forgot to tell you – Loved your last words of tribute to Pangi….sobs!
This is so sad, and so ironic.
Death is such a weird thing.
me: Ironic..yes!
I became aware about rudaalis after the movie. It struck me as ironic that grief can be transferred for a few paise. As a literature student, I had read many ancient Greek tragedies which had a chorus of wailing old women as a backdrop to the main action.
me: Greeks still follow the custom. May be not everyone.
And your story about the unmourned death of the professional mourner is the bitterest irony of the poor.
Good post
me:
This post is so informative, but brought tears.. through this post, you have given life and respect to an ignored, forgotten person..
you know, in school we used to have this assignment of writing a character sketch of a person in a lesson. I think this memoir fits the bill perfectly.
me: After writing it, I too felt the same. Thanks Gauri.
you know, when i saw Rudaali, for some reason it set in my mind that rudaalis are called only for those people who have no one to cry for.. strange.
me: Oh no! it was a status symbol once upon a time. More people crying and beating their chest meant that the person was of higher status.
Even now in the west, loud crying at funeral is not common.
You last line was heart wrenching. Even though I have spent all my life in Kerala, I was not aware of the professional mourning system here. I think it does not exist any more, right? Though I have seen a custom where in the daughters and the daughters-i-law of a deceased person have to lie prostate around a dead person and wail as loud as they can, whether they are feeling like crying or not. Or else folks will accuse them of being hard hearted! Though I wouldn’t credit communists of doing much good for the state. And anyway they brought their own brand of craziness. I believe social reformers like Sree Narayana Guru, Ayyankali and Kerala Varma played a major role in abolishing untouchability in Kerala.
me: I don’t think it existed even then. Pangi probably was just following what she was taught as a child.
Oh! I have no clue about that other custom you mentioned. Communists of course brought their brand of craziness but they sure have a hand in changing uppercastes’ mind. Sree Narayana Guru and Ayyankali did a lot for their community and brought them respect.
I hail from Orissa. And people like Pangi can be found in good numbers even today. However I am reminded of a story ma told me many years back- it was about a lady who was called to professionally cry in weddings during Bidaai. She sang a standard song which meant, she was in Gopapur, ie, in Krishna’s land/ heaven (maika), and she was entering jamapur, ie to yama’s land (sasural. On one fine day she sang it the other way round. It was a funny incedent because, the bride starting laughing. It atleast lightened the mood.
Unconnected comment, but I guess these women hires for crying is the most pathetic profession. When granny passed, they were there, crying.
first time here and loving it!
me: Welcome here, KG. Oh! such customs still practiced? Agree with you pathetic it is. Thanks for sharing.
What a sad, terrible practice! As many of your commenters have said, the last line was chilling.
me: Sadly! it is still prevalent.
Such ubiquitous casteism prompted Swami Vivekananda to nickname Kerala as the mad house of India. . . . . . .
I never knew this (the label given by Vivekananda)
me:The correct phrase in Malayalam is ‘Keralam oru bhrandaalayam‘.
Yes I too have observed this at my home town, but somehow they linger around and have all the finer details about your family.
This character you mentioned reminds me of the lady who used to stand on one leg in the book “Blasphemy” . . . .a story about the pir babas who lived in Pakistan.
By the way you write well.
me: Thank you and welcome to my space.
I dint know of any such custom being practised..
Felt very bad reading about pangi..
me: Apparently this was prevalent everywhere and still exists at some places in Greece, South America and India.
sigh what a sad ending
I thought only India had professional mourners, but thanks to your efforts now i know more. Caste system!!! its such an ewww..i dont know when it will end..i have hopes from my generation..lets see