A woman of conviction: If I could I would vote for
Mallika Sarabhai.
I know I can’t vote but I can surely support her through my blog. The feeling just got stronger after I watched the news some 15 mins ago about Advani’s fondness for RSS. Nothing new but just around the elections after Varun Gandhi’s hate speech, I didn’t want to watch this. The thought of RSS supported BJP coming to power and L K Advani becoming the PM just scares me. I am a Hindu but before that an Indian who hates religion and caste based politics.
I can’t fathom any politician who swears by a fanatic outfit. India cannot be a Hindu rashtra. India is a potpourri of cultures. How difficult is it for some of these fanatics to understand?
The noted dancer, IIM-MBA, Mallika Sarabhai, daughter of the famous space scientist, Vikram Sarabhai, has decided to join the poll arena to challenge the Bharatiya Janata Party prime ministerial candidate, L. K. Advani, in Gujarat’s Capital city constituency of Gandhinagar. Ms. Sarabhai said the main reason for her joining the fray was to register her strong protest against ‘criminalisation of politics’ and reducing the common man to the level of a non-entity.
The present political parties had made ‘democracy for politicians, by politicians, of politicians’ and ‘not for the people, by the people, of the people. The people have been reduced to absolutely nothing,” she said.
Ms. Sarabhai, however, said, she would not contest on the Congress symbol and would prefer to remain independent. Many of her well-wishers and supporters had set up ‘Friends of Democracy,’ to prop up her candidature and for now it seems she would stick to it.
When Ms. Sarabhai first opposed Modi govt. after Godhra carnage, she was charged in a case of human trafficking. An attempt at the behest of Modi administration by producing some fictitious complaints. She was later acquitted by the court. That is what players of dirty politics do to a renowned danseuse then imagine the plight of an average woman who decides to speak up against such atrocities.
Mallika has an excellent pedigree and has all the qualities to make a good leader. She is daughter of two eminent personalities. Her father Vikram Sarabhai is considered the father of Indian space program and mother Mrinalini Swaminathan was a renowned danseuse herself.
While growing up in Kanpur, I have faded memories of visiting Mallika Sarabhai’s aunt Dr. Lakshmi Sehgal. The eloquent woman was close associate of Subhash Chandra Bose and commander of Rani Laxmi Bai regiment who years later ran for President of India as a Left party candidate against Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam. My mom speaks so fondly of this frail yet strong woman.
Mallika Sarabhai knows that she has no chance against a strong contender like L K Advani but one never know. Remember Indira Gandhi’s defeat in 1977. Mallika says,
I will fight to win but I am not bothered about the outcome.
I salute you lady for at least standing up against these patriarchs of Indian politics.
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“Democracy for politicians, by politicians, of politicians” – This is true, and I agree, with you you in this case, we need someone who understand, if she’s the force, then I too will support her. You never know when the world changes. Also, It only saddens me that instead of the normal editorials process there will be goonda politics.
me: Chirag! Sadly, we can’t vote. The voters are bought by hook and crook. The true meaning of democracy is long lost.
Woh is to problem hai, you think that this is fair and they think that is fair and politician thinks anything is fair.
Yes, I too support her although I can’t vote for her…
Narendra Modi is a Hindu fundamentalist autocrat…Have you noticed his eyes? They are vacant…He’s an extremely good orator and has charisma just like Hitler…When he wants something, it gets done overnight…Eg. The Nano project – everything including land purchase was done in a day…When he doesn’t like something, he makes sure it goes away…
I’ve met a few people who live in Gujarat and want to move away because of the communal mood there…I don’t want that to happen in other states and that’s why I hope the BJP doesn’t come to power…
me: Agree with you 100%. I don’t want Hinduism branded as a fanatic religion. We have bragged of beautiful India and it’s peaceful Hindu religion. There is no way we should support such fanaticism to get power. I don’t want to see RSS supported govt. ever.
Actually you never know, she might win. I am more inclined toward her as she is Independent, if on Congress ticket, I would have been sad as Congress is no less criminal than BJP when it comes to choosing candidates.
L. K. Advani has been spending lot on money on his campaign, regularly some sms-es arrive my mobile inbox informing me about his ‘vision’ on his log. I think he may be the eternal ‘PM-in-waiting’
That’s why I mentioned about 1977 defeat of Indira Gandhi. You never know but an independent and that too an educated lady getting vote looks bleak. Sadly! people would much prefer a Rabri Devi to Mallika Sarabhai. That is how the patriarchs have designed politics. When Varun Gandhi was a polished chap, he had no takers and now when he came down to venom spewing level, he is talk of the town and fanatics like Shiv Sena are readily accepting him.
I have a feeling that Varun had spewed venom according to a PLAN. This furure was intended and they knew they would then play victimised card. They hardly had camers in his rallies. Without this media attention, he would still been a nobody. Now he’s got a profile, and earned ”respect” in his constituency.
Remember how Muthalik got cameras when they were bashing up women. Its never a coincidence in our country. Sad but thats how our country works
I agree completely Solilo.
The first time I heard about her on the news, I was engrossed by this woman . One who wanted to give Advani a run for his money. SO yes, I do support her and I hope a miracle happens and she wins.
And like you pointed out it just might happen. Who knows? Atleast this woman has the guts not to mention the patience to walk the talk unlike so many others.
Mallika Sarabhai has been made to go through sheer hell. One cannot even begin to imagine what it takes to raise one’s voice against Modi in Gujarat. And that too in such a strong manner with such conviction.
Just for that She has my vote if I could vote for her.
You have met her aunt? I saw an interview of hers once on TV. I found her to be an extraordinary woman.
Thanks for that link on switching off the lights on 28th. Newspapers are full of ads by Aamir and otehrs on this cause.
Which reminds me that I should also publicise it so that atleast some of us can do it.
me: Tonight’s news disgusted me. Advani talking so fondly of RSS.
Mallika’s aunt Capt. Lakshmi Sehgal was a family friend of ours in Kanpur and my mom’s Doctor too. Of course she didn’t have a chance against Dr. APJ Kalam because majority parties chose latter.
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Abhi, Go ahead put up that logo on your blog too. Let us all vote for Earth.
ya! this is the way forward
see now this is not a smiley comment
me: You are a sweetheart, Vichu. What are you doing in the middle of your Board exams? Go study, kiddo.
exams over
I wish she had fought in two constituencies, one against the BJP and one against the Congress. Now her rant sounds false and hypocritical…she is open to getting support from the Congress.
May be she just wanted to fight L K Advani. I wish she gets Congress’s support because aamm janta rarely votes for an independent, educated strong woman. For now looks like she is planning to go at it as independent candidate. I support her anyways as I have always maintained that I support good people not parties.
ditto vinod..
I never knew you are from Kanpur:)
Earlier I also admired her, but know I am akeptical, as she was also accused for taking people abroad illegally thru her troupe.
Secondly I dont think these people are secular..I mean there is always Gujarat carnage..gujrat carnage…blah blah, but everybody forgets that why it started? The people who were burnt alive in the train…does anybody remember them?..they were so innocent poor people …..She or the same for Nandita…Nobody wants to go there as it will not gain them any votes or fame or publicity…sad situation for India, and people like Varun do more harm for Hindus as the pseudoseculars have been doing for muslims.
we must vote for competent people, good adminitrators, not for some who either hate Hindu or Muslim.
@RENU
If Mallika Sarabhai is not secular I would like to know WHO IS SECULAR IN GUJARAT TODAY?
Narendra Modi?Would you liek to call him secular perhaps?
It takes guts to take on that man in his own state and for that this woman rocks!
With due respect Renu,While I understand that you have your own viewpoint but to put it like this is not just insensitive but also quite cruel.”I mean there is always Gujarat carnage..gujrat carnage…blah blah, but everybody forgets that why it started? The people who were burnt alive in the train…does anybody remember them?..they were so innocent poor people ”
You used the words ”blah!blah!blah!” to describe the Gujarat riots?????
Please tell me it was a typo or something.
A state where muslims were the main targets in a pogrom …in that state Mallika Sarabhai wants to fight against Advani and Hindutva politics(I dislike this name Hindutva but thats the truth)
So does that make Mallika and Nandita the Hindu haters????
Does hating Hitler make me or you the german haters???
So going by that criteria arent all the BJPiites the Muslim Haters???specially Modi???
I agree on the pseudo secular point in the sense that the so called secular parties are busy appeasing minorities which is what leads to more inequality in India.
Varun BTW has done no harm to Hindus ,but to BJP and Hindutva..
There is a huge difference between HINDUISM and HINDUTVA.
sorry that should read as Varun has done more harm to BJP .
Hindutva is already an ideology of hate.
Hinduism is above all this..its Sanatan Dharma ..it adapts and changes…hate mongers like Modi and Varun cant do a thing to Hinduism..
I know its like raking a hornets nest…. But i must say ….
But Modi made a cardinal sin in Godhra by not controlling the riots. In a fit of rage, he reacted to the train burning issue.
Remember it was not an ideology thing, it was a hasty and most importantly an angry decision taken in reaction to an event.
The events that transpired were not totally scripted and things even went out of Narendra Modi’s hands…. That mistake has cost him and he can never be in the fore front in central politics.
No I am not trying to defend him, if CM’s start acting like him God Save us.
But after that Godhra incident although he has not apologised I must say that things in Gujarat are a lot better than a lot of other states. Riots also have not happened after that.
I know I am going to be massacared by all the bloggers here for saying all this, but Modi made a mistake, a cardinal mistake in a fit of rage. It was a wrong decision.
I know people dont like to listen to this, but if you take away Godhra, there are very few blots in his sheet. But Godhra will remain a big dark blood mark on his face.
I have many Muslim friends who actually think Narendra Modi is the best to take Gujarat forward.
Bout Mallika, she is not clean. I myself know of a couple of people who have been illegally taken to the US under a dance program. She even charged 5 lacs for this couple. The couple are friends.
There is no justification of violence. I am not justifying, but the man got enraged by the people being burnt alive in a train. Instead of going after the actual culprits, which would have been impossible, he went after the whole community. That is his biggest mistake.
Dhiren, Nobody is going to massacre you for stating your opinion. All of us have the right to.
Fit of rage? Is that an excuse? I don’t think so. As I said there is no excuse to violence and anyone who thinks that Godhra was done in a fit of rage doesn’t know politics. That’s just my view. It was a well-planned massacre which divided the state so much that Modi’s calculation won him a second term. Majority win doesn’t make him a saint. The terrorists who are caught also give excuse like they took to terrorism because their mother or sister was raped by Army personnel or looted by someone. They blow up buildings. Do they get a chance to become Chief Minister too?
We always make a hue and cry over Hindus getting a raw deal in India these days and then we go ahead and try to justify a terrorist like Modi. Yes! In my view he is one.
You are speaking from your experiences. I have not met anyone who supports Modi not Hindus and Muslims-never.
Mallika was acquitted by court. But I am not surprised that everyone wants to believe the case as it is against a strong and independent woman. I am sure there will be so many who will say that she did it. Was there any proof? There is none.
Does Mallika’s human trafficking look bigger offence here and Modi’s fit of rage massacre?
”I have many Muslim friends who actually think Narendra Modi is the best to take Gujarat forward”
would love to met these ‘muslim’ friends Dhiren
Frankly I am amazed that such muslims still survive in Gujarat today!
Did they somehow escape Modi?
Indyeah… there are quite a few i know… personally. I live in Bharuch where there are a couple of constituencies which have a large Muslim population. BJP still manages to win.
Dhiren,
There is evidence to support Modi asked police officers not to intervene…If he did all that he is accused of in a fit of rage, God bless the people of Gujarat!!!Do we want a leader who can’t control his emotions?Also, Gujarat was already on an upward spiral when Modi came to power – he did not start the trend…He’s an autocrat and can’t stand dissent…I don’t want an autocrat for a leader either…Modi is just like Sanjay Gandhi…
dont know if he is an autocrat…
Bones, he is unrivalled and he has no one to oppose him or keep him in check, In the last elections he alone was the agenda(which is not good though, as demonstrated by Godhra )
Gujarat was always on the spiral upward, however the rapid pace at which things are getting done in the past few years is remarkable, the level of corruption in govt. offices has gone down amazingly, the farmers were beaten up for power theft (no govt would dare touch the farmers), however now the govt has won them with canals !!! They dont need to rob power any more… Kutch was flooded two years back… and it is not a joke or co-incidence.. !!
At ground level an amazing amount of work has actually taken place which is not just a co-incidence or a due course of events but result of some good governance, selfless work, removal or politicians and insertion of bureaucrats… he took out all the ministers and threw them out…. he works with the help of bureaucrats… and whatever has changed is praise worthy…
While All debates by people like me on Godhra will be lost trying to take Modi’s side…. (rightfully so… )
On Developmental issues, governance… he is far superior to any of the other chief ministers…
This is a prime example of how if a man is given complete authority to take decisions he can make things work… this is something we aspire for the country and not a coalition govt.
and yes……. he is voted by the people of Gujarat not because of Godhra… !!! No….
They vote for him despite of Godhra !!!
Hope some day he understands and stops talking as his work speaks for him, plus when he speaks he only instigates people… so its better he keep his mouth shut and keep working !
@Renu I would like to apologise if I came across as too strong
I grew up in lot of places but majorly Kanpur so yes a UP-ite in lot of ways.
I have mentioned that case. She was acquitted of it, Renu and you still believe it? It was Modi administration’s false case to put her in quandary. Men like Modi treat all smart women the same way.
Who is secular? Gujarat carnage is blah..blah?
I am sorry but I find that line insensitive.
Is there any justification for violence? I don’t think so because if that were the case then terrorist can justify their act too. So where does it end? We keep burning each other? tit for tat? While politicians make hefty bank balances?
I support Mallika Sarabhai because she has guts to stand against these patriarchs of politics. I wish I could. I don’t want a RSS supported PM for India.
arre my UPiite sis!
and you must have been a UPiite
I must have been born in Kerala In my previous birth
MY bestfriend is a Mallu
and now you too
Solilo IS it just me?
Or has the discussion become as absurd as to taget a woman because she is a woman who knows her own mind,is educated and how!(much more than many men I have met) and comes from a background that is grounded in honesty and self sacrifice and most of all is a woman who will NOT bow down to chauvinists and patriarchy….
AND WE ARE Comparing her to MODI??
Is the world mad or is it us???
me: No we are not.
I am not surprised though. Women like Ms. Sarabhai don’t fit into the stereotype of Indian women. On top of that her taking on a stalwart like Advani is not going to bring her accolades. We are neutral on many issues and we can continue to air our opinion no matter what.
I am not against Congress,nor against BJP.Franklly, both have failed us.I will support Malika Sarabhai and any-one else with a background, knowing very well she will not win.However,a begining has to be made which she has done .Other well meaning people should come forward.Time is ripe.
me: Welcome to this space. You are right. At least she came forward. Hope more educated people like her join politics.
I absolutely support this cause Solilo!
And let’s all blog about this and spread the word. When I first read about it I remembered vaguely what we had read about the way she was harassed by the Modi government. Absolutely brilliant post – I will be back here, let me add this inspiring post on my sticky note
me: IHM, Yes! spread the word. That would be our way of supporting her.
Solilo I will also support her irrespective of whether she is independent or joins the Congress. I hope she puts up a good fight, and why believe she will not win? I think our people are smart and they are sick of communalism.
We have seen surprises in the past, maybe we will see another one now.
I had a professor in college, a devoted Hindu, who would take great offense if anyone referred to India as Hindustan. A firm believer in secular India, he would tell us that the Indian or Hindi name for our country is Bharath and not Hindustan.
Advani or even Mayawati as PM…..the stuff of nightmares!
me: Hindu name itself was given to us by outsiders because we lived in the land of Sindhu river (River Indus). So personally, I have no problem if India is referred to as Hindustan or Bharat but I can understand the said person’s view on it. I would prefer Bharat too though never going to support Akhand Bharat concept of RSS as Hindus in each state have very different with their own culture. There is nothing which binds all Hindus together.
BTW welcome to my space.
Good for her. She can contest elections and make her point.
As we have accepted a democratic way of life, each one may have likes and dislikes and accordingly express them.
You may hate a RSS supported PM or a Mayawati becoming one. However, if they do get elected and do indeed reach the final post, you cannot lament. After all, significant numbers have voted and accepted either of them as PM.
That is democracy – numbers do play a role and at a certain point we must respect the final verdict. The scary thing is whether 2009 will see a decisive vote or a badly fractured one. All pundits seem to have zeroed on the second as a likely outcome, which means a new PM every three – six months or so.
An extension of democracy is also the governance and direction that the country will get. We as voters must also keep that in mind. I think what must really scare us is a possible collapse in governance, complete neglect of strategic issues and irresposible financial management – the greatest threats to us.
Only we have accepted democracy, politicians have not.
Why can’t I? I can lament any politician. Isn’t anyone writing against ruling Congress? Didn’t anyone write against Bush administration? Significant numbers are bought these days. Horse trading happens after all elections.
The saddest thing is that even if Advani loses and BJP-coalition wins, he would still become a PM because he is member of Rajya Sabha.
My view always have been in support of BJP because it has better leaders compared to dynastic politics played by Congress where even the senior leaders keep their seat warmed by sucking upto Ma’am Sonia and younger politicians are killed in crashes. But I won’t support BJP if it takes RSS and Siv Sena’s support. I won’t and I can’t because their policies scare me. I can already visualize what would happen if RSS is given the power.
The last para has been discussed in a different context before. We voters always have to keep that we need to bring a stable govt. because elections take a toll on the country. The parties don’t give tickets to worthy candidates and we are always forced to vote for criminals and good for nothing Rabri Devis.
I like Ms. Sarabhai’s conviction. Is she wanted to win she would have fought against someone else. Here she is trying to make a statement and I would like to support her.
If Mayawati becomes PM, it will not be because a majority of Indians voted for her…It will be because of alliances…
me: Exactly.
@Dhiren: And if Modi is justified then Mayavati too has done enough for her caste people and they might argue that she deserves to be the PM.
Nice post..
Agree with what you’ve said…
Agree that the BJP seems to have lost it and good people need to come into politics. But Solilo, try and understand, these are general elections, the purpose of which is to have a government, cabinet of ministers and PM at the centre ie. in Delhi.
That lok sabha will debate on important policy matters and in a crowd of around 500, how can one pretty danseuse make a difference? It is the responsibility of larger political parties to bring in morality and ethics into their politics. It is the responsibility of larger parties to field candidates like Ms. Sarabhai but as an independent, first of all, she doesn’t stand a chance.
A MP doesn’t really do much for his/her constituency, I still haven’t research an MP’s powers and duties towards his/her constituency and whether he/she gets a budget for expenditure towards the constituency but I guess, 8 months out of a year, that MP stays in Delhi to attend the Lok Sabha sessions.
If she really wishes to do some good, I guess, she has to start from the local municipal elections where she can make a lot of difference.
I know, it means that she’s letting the big bad parties fight it out but in the larger cause of stability of the government at the centre, I guess, we have to accept a little bit of bad.
Further, it is important that she contests from a congress ticket or else, she’ll definitely eat into the votes of the congress candidate and not LK Advani. Her contesting as an independent might even hand over an easy win to L K Advani.
It is good to be enthusiastic but it is always better to be practical first.
Rakesh, Pretty danseuse? Is that her only identity? Why is it that when an independent woman tries to make a difference by making a stand there is so much resentment? Do we shrug off male politicians as handsome and cute so and so? She is educated with an IIM degree, she has a good pedigree. So what if she is a novice in politics. Does anyone have a clue about politics in India any way?
Don’t we always say that even one ounce would make a difference? Large parties don’t give tickets to woman like her. They would prefer anyone like Rabri Devi so that the basic idea of a typical Indian woman stays in majority minds and satta run by men again.
I like the fact that she is making a statement and even though I am not a fan of Congress, I would like that she gets to fight election on their ticket. But I am sure they will also weigh various options and see this avant-garde Indian woman can take a stalwart like Advani.
I am sick of being practical because practical means support majority win and majority party as I have mentioned before only give tickets to criminals and uneducated bumpkins who can make vitriolic speeches to divide people. Varun Gandhi before had no takers even within BJP as he was too polished. One speech and now he is talk of the town.
But Solilo, why doesn’t she contest for the Local Municipal Elections where she can make a hell lot of difference?
Our parliamentary system is structured in such a way that in the General Elections, Independent candidates hold no meaning whatsoever.
me: Rakesh, so why do we have independent candidacy at all? Shouldn’t that be scraped? Often we talk about change on our blogs. So what option does social activists have if parties don’t give them a ticket?
They Have an option. Go to the local elections, win there, do good work, make a difference, bring in change in their own region. And then definitely political parties will notice.
Of course, that will mean, not be in the limelight unless you have done something worthwhile. But standing in the Lok Sabha Elections, and that too against a stalwart, is a sure ticket to recognition. No, am not taking a jibe at Sarabhai, am just saying that this is the reason nobody gets their hands dirty in local elections.
There is independent candidacy because of the constitutional right of every individual to contest an election. But in the General election, doesn’t really serve the purpose.
She is already a social activist. What qualification does a Varun Gandhi or Rahul Gandhi has for the party to have inducted them? Do you really think that political parties give tickets after reviewing the work people do? Is that why we see the likes of Sanjay Dutt and Gawli being selected?
Mallika Sarabhai doesn’t need an introduction, not in India-not abroad. She comes from a family who has served India at various levels. Just some of the names are Vikram Sarabhai and Dr. Lakshmi Sehgal.
Isn’t entire politics about limelight? Why do you think now all BJP workers are queuing to take Varun Gandhi for speech? Why do you think popular stars are selected?
If constitution has given right to common people like us then Sarabhai or even you and I should very well go ahead with independent candidacy. Other than sponsoring a kid, I don’t have much to show in my resume so I think Ms. Sarabhai is ideal choice.
danseuse yes she is and a pretty one. – why is people sidelining the element that she is keeping up one of the strong elements of indian culture – dance.
And about the RSS, these days, everyone thinks that RSS means a staunch Hindu ideology but I don’t think the RSS in its cadres, in its sessions where it trains youngsters, have ever said anything derogatory about any other religion.
You know everything is not as black and white as it often seems.
In this debate, I just cannot take sides. I do think that the Congress has also played minority politics since a lot of years. Of course, that doesn’t mean that minorities should be executed and the hate ideology floated by Varun Gandhi and by BJP few years back is even more disgusting. But what I’m saying is that Congress is no saint either.
However all said, if I have to choose the lesser devil, I’d still opt for the Congress, as of now at least.
I really don’t know what coaching RSS is given but their concept of Akhand Bharat and many policies are hatred filled.
For me BJP and Congress and 2 sides of the same coin. But BJP + RSS is terrifying because of the influence RSS is going to have on BJP. Good politicians get sidelined even in BJP.
This debate is not about two parties. The main point is about a woman who wants to take a stand. I am supporting a strong-willed woman who at least want to take a stand against these patriarchs of Indian politics. Women are sidelined because they speak up. I am sensing the same kind of resentment here too.
@Rakesh: RSS has never said anything derogatory about other religions??
Then what is the belief of RSS???
RSS calls the ‘others’ that is the Muslims the ‘monsters’,the ‘evil’ that one has to ‘throw’ out of India..
Where have I seen and heard this?
In Gujarat..at an RSS camp
RSS’s ideology
Golwalkar praises Lord Manu as the greatest law giver mankind ever had. It was the same law giver Manu’s book, which was burnt by Dr. Ambedkar in his pursuit of getting justice for the dalits. In current times, Golwalkars’ successor also demanded a throwing away of Indian constitution, to be replaced by the one which is based on Hindu holy books, implying Manusmriti, off course.
-from Golwalkar’s book , ‘We or our Nationhood Defined’ (We…), which gives an outline of his ideology.
Also,Golwalkar was an admirer of Hitler.Not just any admirer mind you but a keen admirer to the point of obsession.
Golwalkar’s words
Solution to the Minority ‘problem’:
“The foreign races in Hindustan must either adopt the Hindu culture and language, must learn to respect and hold in reverence Hindu religion, must entertain no idea but those of the glorification of the Hindu race and culture, i.e., of the Hindu nation and must lose their separate existence to merge in the Hindu race, or may stay in the country, wholly subordinated to the Hindu Nation, claiming nothing, deserving no privileges, far less any preferential treatment – not even citizen’s rights. There is, at least, should be, no other course for them to adopt. We are an old nation; let us deal, as old nations ought to and do deal, with the foreign races, who have chosen to live in our country. (We or Our Nationhood Defined)
“German race-pride has now become the topic of the day. To keep up with the purity of the race and its culture, Germany shocked the world by her purging the country of the Semitic races- the Jews. Race pride at its highest has been manifested here. Germany has also shown how well-nigh impossible it is for Races and Cultures, having differences going to the root, to be assimilated into one united whole, a good lesson for use in Hindusthan to learn and profit by” (We or Our Nationhood Defined)
Are we still unclear ON RSS ideology??????
RSS breeds HATE.
Visit any shakha and find out.
And OH! make sure you are a Hindu because only Hindus are allowed in.:/
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Indy, maybe you and I went to separate Shakhas of the RSS. I was taught to do good in my life, to help people and to address everyone young and old as ‘Aap’. But yes, I wasn’t there very long and I was very young at that time.
Of course, there is no place for hate. Agree completely.
But about Sarabhai contesting, I still don’t think that is the solution.
I am with rakesh on this…. RSS and VHP arent the same….
RSS has actually done a lot of social work !
@Rakesh I agree Rakesh that you might have gone to a different shakha ..ofcourse all of them will be different..however I was quoting the basic beliefs of RSS here..
Maybe some shakhas are really good …I would have no clue about it really
@Dhiren but I never once compared the VHP and RSS
all I did was quote the words of one of the main leaders of RSS..the rest is open to interpretation isnt it?
human trafficking is not a fictious complaint against her… i know a couple of people who were taken by her to the US … she actually helped a lot of illegal immigrants….
she used to earn a lot out of it…
no one is clean here !
So court acquitted her and we should still believe that it is true whereas Modi’s action was in a fit of rage and we should forget it because that is the only blotch he has in his career. ONLY?
Am I reading it correct that a man who incited massacre is almost getting a clean chit whereas an acquitted woman who wants to at least make a statement which many of us are unable to is getting vilified for something she didn’t even do.
I am sorry, Dhiren. But I am unable to comprehend this. I hope I am getting it wrong.
If you are going by the court acquital… well I would like to believe Narendra Modi has also nothing against him yet proven. !!! I would than like to believe that it was only the public that carried out the carnage after the train burning. He couldnt control. Can i say that and acquit Narendra Modi ?
I do not want to weigh crimes and that is not the point. both crimes arent of the same scale. Modi should be hanged and Mallika be jailed with her passport being seized.
But we can always settle for the lesser evil rite ? We can look at the larger picture.
We can decide to pick and choose which crimes are acceptable and which are not.
BTW
On 27th February, 58 people were burnt ALIVE in S-6 in Sabarmati Express. 26 WOMAN 12 CHILDREN and 20 men.
If you think this was planned, sorry.
What followed was a reaction and yes the CM targetted the community instead of going after that mob of 2000 people who actually burnt the train. I dont love Modi, I think he should be behind bars or better be hanged.
But you cannot pick and choose crimes or lesser and greater evils.
If you think there is more to Mallika than just human trafficking there is certainly a lot more to Narendra Modi than just Godhra.
Justification of Godhra carnage + supporting Modi in it and then equating it to Ms. Sarabhai’s no-proof- offense (concocted by the state govt.)
Mallika jailed for what? Are you above judiciary? Do you have further proof even after she was acquitted?
Our basic ideology itself is different. I find it futile to argue in that context.
sorry…
I aint above judiciary. As I said I my own friends paid her money for illegal immigration !
neways… lets leave it.
It simply amazes me that a woman’s imagined ‘crime’ (which included taking some people out of India)and is NOT true BTW(but I will proceed anyway)
is being considered at the same level as that of a murderer who has the blood of thousands on his hands…
That the debate has come to THIS???
Should I laugh or cry???
Dhiren are the two issues of the same magnitude???
ARE THEY??
bout the BJP…. fools they are…. actually religion is not an issue any more…. however a lot still try to get mileage out of this dying cow….
the most advantageous election agenda now it seems caste ….
Mayawati will teach every one a lesson… she is not about religion but about caste… !!
Yea she haunts me.. alrite… but you wait and see
See this is what I meant when I said that being polished doesn’t work. One hate speech and you have an entire lot flocking after you. No one shrugs him off as an handsome young man.
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1241644
Caste and religion based politics is the new mantra. Divide people on the basis of it and while they are fighting, politics wins. If one or two wants to make a difference, they are stifled because they are independent and on top of that a woman.
Varun & BJP are hugely mistaken.
Actually Varun has done more damage to BJP than good, though time will tell….
Had he spoken about caste’s I am sure he would not have come to the media scrutiny and infact instead of hindu hindu hindu he should have said reservation reservation reservation and he would have laughed his way into election !!!
Great post I fully endorse what you said Solilo. Congress in Gujarat is the B team of Modi. They wil never be able to be an ideological opposition to Modi. So the need of independent resistance. I do not think the local congress leaders will be brave enough to support Mallika. If the centre pressures them only they may support.
me: I have doubts about Congress giving her ticket because she is too polished for their taste. They want someone who is able to at least put up a fight against L K Advani. She is a novice.
As I mentioned several times on this thread, I am supporting her for her stand. For her conviction.
Solio, I too support her. the need of teh hour is to support candiates who do good work irrespective of their party.
Solilo!!! Absolutely wonderful post!!! And I so totally stand by everything you say! I have to say that my respect for Mallika Sarabhai just increases tremendrously because she has chosen to stand as an Independant – I think we need more such people – who have the conviction to stand up for what they feel is right. Whether she wins or not – I think we have to laud her courage and conviction – and I pray that she wins!
As for Varun – you are so right when you say that he has done more harm to BJP and Hindutva ! Hinduism is so totally removed from what is being propoganded as ‘Hindutva’. And I really, really think that we do not need ’saviours’ for Hinduism!!!! And it’s high time that our political parties understood this!
me: We definitely don’t need Varun to take up our cause. But he has finally learned the politics that works. http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1241644 Now he is the star of BJP. From now on it is Gandhi vs. Gandhi in Indian politics.
It’s nice to see that there are sane voices. It’s nicer to see that she is contesting independently. Congress (imo) is even worse.
bah… seems you will publish the comments in the night.. will check them tomorrow…
hey suggestion… stop moderating comments, you can always delete them…
that will allow the commenters to interact a lil more !
whaddya say ?
Dhiren, I usually keep comments in moderation but forgot that this topic needed immediate response and commenter interaction.
Sorry for the inconvenience. In future , if I am away I will not moderate comments on topics like this.
solilo, I can’t comment on Sarabhai’s post? *confused.
LOL. Never mind! Am going to blame Monday morning haze
Now the post. I had >i>no idea that Mallika was active in politics. She’s an amazing dancer and that’s all I knew. Bah@my ignorance, but then again, am not hugely involved in politics, esp the desi scene ..
She sounds awesome. At least her heart and mind seem to be in the right place!Wishing her luck
me: That’s the reason I am supporting her. I don’t care about the outcome.
When I heard saw this in the news, I could hardly believe my eyes(ears?) I was stunned and thrilled that she has the guts to stand against the patriarchs … she brings hope.
Kudos to Mallika!!
We Indians are stuck in the perpetual kuan and khaai situation in political leaders.
Amazing…I hope she wins!
me: Chances are grim but there’s no harm in hoping for the best.
‘criminalisation of politics’ and reducing the common man to the level of a non-entity.
powerfull…good post Solilo..If i could vote..am all for this lady..Probability is less but u never know..:->
me: Sadly..Bindu, we can’t.
Hmmmmm….I hope she wins but am sure she will not….specially because her basic qualification is that of being an honest person…
me: Also, she doesn’t seem to be the ideal woman. This one lives life on her own terms. She will be branded as one of those urbane women who isn’t part of “real” India.
What? No criminal record either? No chance then.
Yeah, I hope that she makes a difference in her own way….
and the RSS is not worth talking about!!
There was a scheme before for the Indians in the Gulf where in they were allowed to do some kind of voting from over there itself. I am not sure, they have it still. But to think of it, I guess, they should starts something like that, na? Online voting using your voters ID. In that way multiple voting wudnt happen too ! Again, Im ignorant, is there such a scheme today for NRI’s?
me: Vimmu, I am not sure of this provision.
Interestingly Mallika had filed a case in the Supreme Court against the Modi government’s role in the Godhra riots. The war didn’t stop there and she was hit back with a case of illegally taking people to the US, though she ran clear of all the allegations
God only knows who is right and who is wrong. For me all politicians look the same – bad
Either they want to advocate their veiws or they want to make money. Oh, yes, this too is a profession and a job, like what normal mortals like us do!!
Only time will tell but yes, anyone competing any kind of radical thinking falls in my love kitty!
Keep Blogging!!
Biju, I have mentioned that case where she was acquitted. You try to go against the govt. and you will find yourself in such quandary.
Since you are from Kerala, do you know a 70s case of P. Rajan, a final year student of the Calicut Engineering College? He made a strong speech against K. Karunakaran. He was killed in police custody. The verdict created a political furore in the state and following pressures from within the party and from the ruling front, Karunakaran had to resign as Chief Minister within one month of his taking oath.
That was then and this is now.
Yeah, I’ve heard about the case. Karunakaran was the home minister then and was alleged to have done nothing to save him.
The problem with politics is that you fall into a system. No one individual can change the system. The system changes them. Mallika is yet to realize this. She may the perfect answer right now but what about her futuristic actions. Would she bend to the rules or resign when faced with the loop hole in politics? Power change people Solilo! Let’s see what time unfolds..
me: Biju, Power does change people. One individual can’t change the system but at least one intelligent and educated female as MP in the parliament, doesn’t that thought make you happy?
I really want her to make it ……………
First I think we should choose the candidate for their competence not for Gender(where is our gender equalitythen).
If you see our history…… there were riots against sikhs after the assasination of Indiraji, and certainly there were some people.politicians who abetted them and were from the congress only…why dont people say that congress is communal?
But today there is no alienation with Sikhs.
There was terrorist problem inPunjab also and hundreds of Hindus were massacred there, but there is no polarisation there now.
In Mumbai the riots happened but why..after blasts;
In Gujarat..all this happened, but why….because of Godhra.
When Riots happened after Babri masjid..we said they were because muslims were hurt.
Most of the communally sensitive cities are those where muslims are in majority why?
If we sympathise with the victims of Gujarat we are sensitive and secular, but if we sympathise with the Godhra people..we are cruel and insensitive..are they not people of Gujarat?
We are playing in the hands of politicians, instead we must reah the roots of the peonlem, try to provide education to max. people and thats the only solution, istead of bringing politics into these thing.
For choosing a leader… the best qualification should be competence, efficiency.
By supporting congress we show that we want a home minister like Shiv raj patil, and a president Pritabha Patil.
I would do the same. How can my choosing to vote for a woman candidate become gender inequality? Gender inequality is what we see here when we mock at a woman who at least has the guts to take a stand against a patriarch like Advani. Inequality is when we shrug that woman as merely ‘pretty danseuse’ whereas we don’t use such terms for male candidates. Do we have equality in politics? Will any party care to even give tickets to educated women? They only go after big film stars or the kinds who can bring lower caste votes.
Renu, I understand what you are saying but this choice of mine has no connection with any of those. I am a Hindu but I loathe RSS. I don’t agree with their vitriolic statements which incites common man. Advani praising them to the hilt (Of course that’s the only way for him to be the PM), didn’t go down well with me so I chose to support this woman.
Everyone is a novice at some point. Isn’t Varun Gandhi one? So why not Mallika Sarabhai too? We all talk about change but if someone actually wants to at least try we are the first ones to pull her down. She knows she don’t stand a chance and if other parties don’t give her a ticket, then what? She should simply keep quiet because if she wins then all she is going to be a MP and not part of govt.? If BJP + coalition wins and Advani loses even then latter would become PM. That is our constitution.
As for the riots and other serious issues you mentioned, we can always discuss them in a different context. I have written about some in my previous posts. It must all be under ‘Politics’ tag on my side bar.
As for Congress I have always maintained that I can’t fathom their dynasty politics. That is my main grouse against the party. Also, I find better leaders in BJP but sadly they get sidelined for the fanatic ones because the ones who create more controversy also bring votes. Now BJP leaders are all up in arm to adopt Varun Gandhi because he is the talk of the town. If you have time please do go through the comment section here on my views on Congress.
wow!!!! a great discussion. mallika sarabhai will take some heart in knowing she has supporters spread across the length and bredth of the country. i too hope she wins against advani and more than that i hope that if she wins, she stands upto her ideologies, her stance, the very reason why she decided to contest polls in the first place. i hope sincerely that mallika does not get sucked into this dirty game and give in to this diaspora of politics. politics changes a person. one tends to forget why he/she had decided to enter the politics in the first place. till now it looks like she will continue to believe in herself and her stance by the way she has taken the modi govt head on. so keep your fingers crossed for her. even if she doesnt win, i hope she continues to be in active publuc life. and take her ideology forward. we need leaders like her to get this country on to the path from where it started. lets hope mallika heralds the change we all are looking and fighting for.
me: Amen.
I support Mallika Sarabhai because she has malayali blood in her:-P!I know thats not a worthy enough criterion.Also thats not to say that I support all the malayali politicians.I hate Karunakaran.EvenVS Achudanandhan who got very nasty with his remarks on Major Sandeep Unnikrishnan.
I’ve always admired MS as a dancer though.I do hope she wins as she has had the audacity to challenge a stalwart like Adwani.
me: You are funny, Deeps. Just because she is half-Malayali. Ha..ha.. She is half-Gujarati too and settled in the state. You want to support a full Malayali? Sasi Tharoor is also taking the plunge this time.
I have been an admirer of mallika ever since I was a wee girl admiring her in ‘Mile Sur Mera Tumhara.’ Then I saw Peter Brooke’s Mahabharat with mallika as Draupadi and was blown away. I admire her as a woman who knows her mind and acts on it – and I admire her all the more for choosing to be an Independent candidate.
me: Oh yeah! let me check ‘Mile sur’ video again. She was there. Wasn’t she?
Hey S, never heard of her before. Based on what you said, you never know – she could be next female prime-minister.
By the way, this is Vishal
me: I know yaar it is you. I can see the e-mail id
Sarabhai can at most be the MP. She can’t be a PM. The PM candidates are all set. Congress has Dr. Singh again, BJP has Advani and Third front as of now has Mayawati. So those are our only options. Let us see what’s in store for us after the elections. Horse trading and all.
Me too. If I could I should certainly cast my vote for her.
Have watched her perform, many years ago, with her mother in Bangalore. She did the Mahishasura Mardini… [Hayigiri Nandini.. slokas], working out a sketch of the Devi, with her feet, on a cloth, below which there was some powder or dye…
It was awesome. After the item, the cloth was held up for the audience, and it showed how finely she had outlined the form! And just with her feet, in rhythm to the hymn.
Even otherwise, she is such a multi faceted and courageous woman. A Woman.
All good wishes to her. You never know. You’re right. She is most likely to cause that upset. I hope and pray!
me: Wow! that is awesome. Drawing while dancing. She excels in every field.
Ushus, So nice to see you back. {{{{Hugs}}}}
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She should win. I don’t think Advani is a good leader. He is too “my party is the best” centric to do anything else.
But we all know how the brain of an average adult works here, don’t we?
While she might not be bothered about the outcome, I will be! I hope she wins!
an excellent post Solilo! I support Mallika Sarabhai too. Though the thought in itself is scary and I dont know how she does it, I admire her for the guts to stand up against Modi, The eternal B.
Shall put up the Earth and Global Warming logo on my blog as well.
me: Sure go ahead. Spread the word and also don’t forget to switch off lights for an hour on March 28.
I wish she was standing from my constituency. I would have voted for her without any confusion. She is a brave woman and was one of the first few people who tried to bring sanity to Ahmedabad after the 2002 carnage.
There is one point most of us are missing here. When asked, why she was standing from Gandhi Nagar, she replied that she lives in Gandhi nagar, works in Gandhi Nagar and knows Gandhi Nagar more than any other place in India. It is not about Advani alone.
me: Prerna, you are absolutely right. She has done enough work at grass root level and it is her right to fight an election for MP seat. She is doing it from her home town too.
Nice Post…u r so right, She is woman of conviction who has the vision,and a dream that surely can be achieved by her conviction.She has the passionate intensity, hope and belief…Yes, if I could vote for her, I surely would.
Wondered if I should burst the bubble after reading a few bloggers bashing up Dhiren, dropped the idea earlier, but these thoughts were roaming in my mind so why not, am not a gujarati nor have ever stayed in gujarat like him but of late have seen and heard plenty of educated middle class professional saying Modi is the best ! it was hard to believe so since the last year have been making a mental note of the tally (and the sort of people) the question in my mind was what prompts these people to say so.
For the past 2 years that I have been staying in Europe it has not been very difficult (infact very easy) to run into people from all spheres be it research, medicine, finance or IT saying ‘Man we need a CM like Narendra Modi, that man gets work done’
Have taken the opportunity to know Pakistani population here too, most are very rigid in their perspective totally immune to any change or flexibility citing the western world for their problems. A typical Pakistani family raises 4 or even more children putting much more burden on the state, child benefits, tax exemption, free schooling and of course not to speak about the facilities they demand like separate pool hours etc for their men would not like to see semi-naked women. To top it they are highly critical of the country they earn their bread and butter from. Have digressed a lot.
Coming back to the Indian diaspora here, people from various states are spiteful of the congress governments reaction and efforts to Pakistan and Taliban sponsored terrorism, blasts the latest being the Mumbai carnage. Pseudo secularism and minority appeasement of Muslims by Congress adds to their view that a radical change is needed.
Ofcourse the Gujaratis here are proud of Modi …….. I see the disgusted frowns …..but apart from that most Indians from various states see him as a politician who had got crores of investment to Gujarat.
These 4 comments of different people are from the most popular Indian community site here, I don’t want to disclose these members identity so will have to delete their names and the companies they mention.
Re: Gujarat attract 12 lakhs crores investments in two days..!
“you are right ABCD !! As far as I know he has repect for all religion people who have respect for India.”
“i m not aware of his …………. he is a real “HERO”… ”
“And why you people always connect those things with such good investments opportunities for India rather then accepting it..!! Because of this 25 lacs people got jobs..!! And who else has done such a good work for their own state other then bribe and bank balance..!! Give a single name…
These investments are not a simple thing, not even the PM of XYZX able to save jobs in ABCD, so forget about new investments..!!”
“he is good for gujarat, let him continue his service to Gujarat”
Since I have been puzzled to run into people who think & believe this way about Modi, I could understand what Dhiren wrote is anything but true.
Wish we had 100 more Arun Bhatias. http://www.arunbhatiaelect.com/ any of you from Pune or have family or friends in Pune, please vote for this man.
me: Thank you for your comment. One thing I would like to correct is that in a debate which happened here, there is no bashing. Dhiren is a friend and we had difference of opinion. If you have gone through all the comments then there was just two sides and arguments supporting it. No bashing whatsoever. Thanks once again and welcome.
Hey Dipsy…. Solilo and Indyeah are dahlings, sweethearts, friends, and much more !!!!
I can go on and on….
And Modi has always aroused strong emotions and debates all over…. always !
Hey welcome to our Blog samaj Dipsy… now let me check your blog, join in its fun !!!!
cheers….
feeling a lot better today !! a lot !
me: Aww…thank you Dhiren. That was so sweet of you and you are a kind soul yourself.
Dhiren is absolutely right. We could argue this long because we were comfortable. There was no bashing and there never will be because it was just a view. Most times we share similar views and even when we debate it ends at that topic.
Dipsy didn’t leave any blog link.
actually cant see dipsy’s blog…
hey do leave your link !
(((((hugs)))for Dhiren because he is such a sweetheart
Sorry to barge in and comment here. I just wanted you to consider a point of view! There is another hero in this world or rather was – Sadam Hussien. Do you support him for whatever infrastructure developments he has had done in Iraq during his time? Will you support him for the millions which he brought into Irag in selling oil to XYZ? Everyone remembers him for the attrocities he committed in Iraq especially with the Shia Muslims, right?
Gujarat is rich in terms of educated youth and resources. He’s is merely selling and marketing them. I would say, he is good marketer and maybe a good politician. But maybe you should see, hear and dig into your soul the emotions which transpired during the Godhra riots. It may change your view!!
Hey, though late, loved the post. My votes too to this great woman who has the guts to stand to her convictions…
And one big hug to this blogger who tells us such good stuff…
Great post Solilo as the 95 comments testify!
I recall a quote: ‘fight for something because it is good and not because it has a chance to succeed!’ So Bravo Mallika!
Varun and Maneka: I hate both of them now! Maneka could have chosen to be different but she has joined hate instead of love. She can only love animals (but now I doubt if such a person is capable of love in the first place). Idiot Varun also has authored a work of poetry! Hate-filled poet! What a sham!
I think Communalism is India’s greatest enemy. A remote friend on Orkut is writing ‘every vote given to Congress will lead to Mullah-Raj!’ ( I am not a Congress supporter either but I am saddened by his thinking and mulling over how to fire him from my friend list; he can’t be reformed, he says he had some hard experiences in AMU which has opened his eyes).
Found you on Fitnessfervor too!
BTW, I too observed Earth Hour and three of my friends as well when I sent them SMS msg.
Vikas, You know what’s funny. The e-mails and messages sent to spread Earth hour word consumed double the energy
Communalism be it minority or majority, is dangerous for the country. Instead of digging up the past and dividing people on the basis of caste/religious reservation and hatred we should work towards equality. That can only happen with education. Political parties would never let people solve their differences. How can they let go off their agenda?
Yes, unfortunately! It is a good initiative just the same. It’s more about awareness and dissemination of information in our time consumes energy of course!
I sent many SMS messages to my friends, posted link on FB, blogged on it on my personal diary and was all the time during that one hour typing and sending SMS to friends about the initiative as I sat by the candle! So whether or not I saved energy is an open secret!
I totally second and third and fourth you, Sol!! Ms.Sarabhai looks so respectable…like she will actually DO something! Hope she wins. hope she doesn’t lose too bad.
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i hope people of gujarat support her.
Shashi Tharoor is standing from Thiruvanananthapuram on Congress ticket. There is a bloggers union supporting it. Pick your widget to support him.
Nah! Congress is not a brilliant party either! Many are opposing Shashi Tharoor too!
A facebook group named ‘No Coca-Cola Spokespersons for Indian Parliament’ is opposing his candidature. I read only half the debate so can’t really comment on it. Do follow all the links for more on it. Quoting here from the FB community profile info. Feel free to truncate/edit it Solilo.
me: Thanks for the links, Vikas. I read about it some time back. Actually many in Congress aren’t supporting his candidature either simply because it was a prominent seat. But the other candidates aren’t clean either. I don’t know all but at least one was accused of molestation with proof. Anyways, it is not about individual but the parties in this case.
I am a fan of Tharoor’s books. I am neutral on his political aspirations.
thanks solilo. thanks vikas gupta — didn’t know all this was happening. and there are antagonistic feelings around tharoor. ! what i wrote on my blog was my opinion without the knowledge of all this ! i wouldn’t have even know if you had not explictly mentioned about the links and so came and checked. coco cola is a company marred in all kind of controversies and it is not without truth – and so i am not surprised at this. and tharoors reply is not compelling enough for people to believe what he wrote in reply. that is the problem with tharoor – he is prolific , but lacks the convictions and is not a compelling writer. for an intelligent reader his writings are but naive. however there are others who might think differently and that is why he is published widely !
me: Anrosh, I am a fan of his books but I am unsure of his ability in politics. I would wait and watch.
Yeah! Solilo he is still better than and miles ahead of most of our candidates!
BTW, Mallika is visiting my campus (JNU) to address a public meeting at 9:30 PM. Will update you tomorrow. I will surely attend it.
Bad news! sad news! I had read 3: 30 as 9:30 because most meetings in JNU happen at 9:30 PM! I ran to the venue at 5 PM but it was all over, alas! Cheated by instincts!
me: Oh no!
I was going to reply to your previous comment to get some pictures and may be talk to her about bloggers support. Anyways, don’t worry.
BTW why don’t you resume blogging? You take time to comment so write at least short posts once a while. I think blogging is therapeutic.
Sigh!
I am blogging on my personal diary! Will return to my primary blog later.
and moreover tharoor is one of the oldest writers. he started at a time – writing about india – whene there was but a handful. Now there are enlightened writers. and a medium where one does not the endorsement of a publishing or a media company.